After reading the article on Cheryl Hentz's site, I had to do some digging for myself and actually taking the time to put together some numbers to support my thoughts.
Cheryl states that Esslinger is "silly and hypocritical", but has nothing to support her statement. Of course, Paul is one with a bulls eye painted on his back because I noted that she didn't mention any other opposition to the intersection. There were others that do NOT support this expense as it was proposed. More information was needed and I have some of it.
I posted earlier about information that I found on google about roundabouts and what the safety is. It also proved that my theory about negotiating an intersection was not a problem. But what MAY be a problem is the significant difference in the cost. Instead of costing the city $152k, it will cost $718k for the roundabout.
I found out tonight that the accidents were in the single digits while traffic numbers were one of the highest in the city. Is it really worth the added expense just to have an intersection that few cities have? Is it REALLY a safety concern? OR is Cheryl trying to be opportunistic? I think it is personal and she is digging for yet another reason to drag Paul through the MUD!
Go figure, if you can't support your theories... Just make it up.
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It has been determined by the state that a roundabout is the way to go to handle the intersection now and in the FUTURE. FUTURE, that is something this city rarely plans for. Here we go again being shortsited to save a few dollars. Much like our school system. We saved a few dollars on a local city manager also. How did that work? Will we ever figure it out. Have you ever watched a semi try to take a right on Jackson heading south. They can't. This is much more than safety. Did anyone watch the presentation by the state last month?
I'm not necessarily opposed to roundabouts. What I'm opposed to is this:
That entire intersection has been "re-done" since about 1990. There was an old style Texaco service station where the KFC is now. There was nothing where the Taco Bell is now, after the fairgrounds was torn down. There was another older syle filling station on the southwest corner. There was an auto-repair/gas station/car wash/wrecker on the SE corner where the Walgreens is now. Jackson to the north was rebuilt as new around 1989 or so. To the south about 2001. To the east around the same time.
If roundabouts are such a good idea, why in gods name wasn't one put in there before the KFC was allowed to be built in the first place?
And what happens in five years, when somebody decides that 3 accidents per year on a roundabout is "too many"? Does the DOT then embrace "triangle-abouts" or whatever, and we go through this all over again?
Kent said: Of course, Paul is one with a bulls eye painted on his back because I noted that she didn't mention any other opposition to the intersection. There were others that do NOT support this expense as it was proposed."
Interesting to note he didn't come back AFTER the vote was taken and tell us that Esslinger was the only one to vote against it, proving once again, Monte has his own biases and he only tells half the story. C'mon Kent, it's been over a week. Are you so busy you can't keep up or is this just your style?
Why should I come back and say that Paul was the lone vote against it. The DOT made it seem that there was no cost difference. Just wait. There will be. The DOT thinks that we will buy KFC and use the portion of the property that we need and then sell it for market value which will offset the increased cost.
When has Oshkosh EVER done that? The will buy it, tear down the building (more cost) and then sell it for a buck while agreeing to some mitigation expense of tens of thousands of dollars. Something very similar to the intersection at Murdock and Algoma.
Yes, this was a loss. Just wait. It will be an expensive one and one that should have been reconsidered for a later date. There were other intersections that needed this type of "upgrade" before this one did.
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