Thursday, July 10, 2008

When will the city learn?

Tonight we see in the news that part of Oshkosh are again flooded. I truly feel for people like Lori Stang that just replaced all of her appliances just to watch them get ruined again within hours.

When will the city learn?

I have spoken out on the purpose and viability of retention ponds. I am not convinced that they will do what the public thinks that they will do. Sure, they will reduce the pollutants flowing into the lake but it will not prevent the flooding that we are seeing in Oshkosh.

When will the city learn?

Perhaps they won't. Ms. Stang had to watch as the sewer drain gurgled water (including raw sewage) into her basement. Storm water retention would do NOTHING to stop that. The SANITARY sewer backed up. These are two completely separate systems that are independent of one another. The only thing that they have in common are the houses that are not compliant with code that prevents the pumping of basement sumps into the sanitary sewer. Granted, it is not the sole reason for the backup... but it would go a long way to prevent flooding of this nature.

When will the city learn?

For those like me that realize that the leaders of this city may never learn may want to take a trip to Menards or Lowes to purchase a new drain cap that has a check valve that closes when the water backs up. I've been told that there is a city code that prohibits the installation of this valve, but if the city doesn't enforce the sump code, what makes you think that they would enforce the valve code either? Besides, the fine is far cheaper than replacing your basement contents and appliances.

In the meantime... I think that the city needs to pray for the rain to stay away.

KM

11 comments:

Anonymous said...

Quote: "I know that there is a city code that prohibits the installation of this valve, but if the city doesn't enforce the sump code, what makes you think that they would enforce the valve code either? Besides, the fine is far cheaper than replacing your basement contents and appliances."

Please cite the city municipal code that prevents homeowners from installing drain plugs.


http://www.generalpipecleaners.com/specialties/floodguard.html

Anonymous said...

12:22 you posted a bad link.
I cut and paste and nothing happens.

Kent Monte said...

12:22,
I corrected the language I used. I have been told that but have not seen the exact code. The source is reliable as they are connected to the OPD.

I don't have the time to dig now but I may get a chance in the next couple of days if you cannot find it for yourself.

KM

Anonymous said...

http://www.generalpipecleaners.com/specialties/floodguard.html

Anonymous said...

Since when is someone from OPD an expert on what can and can't be put on sump pumps, or anything else? They are law enforcement, not code enforcement and they're not with the water department or public works. Good grief Kent.

Anonymous said...

Whoever is posting that link, get a clue, its getting cut off.

Anonymous said...

For some reason, the "l" is getting clipped off of .html in the general pipercleaners.com link.

Either add it manually yourself, or else try this instead:

http://tinyurl.com/6poba6

Anonymous said...

"Whoever is posting that link, get a clue, its getting cut off."

Listen smartass, it shows when I post it, it get's cut off later on, out of my control.

Anonymous said...

What can residents do if the city won't do?
For the past 5 years residents on baumann or taft have contacted city
staff regarding the intersection flooding with just a common downpour. Prior to reconstrution of Sawyer, Josslyn, and a potion of Taft this intersection worked fine. For 4 and 1/2 years residents have been told it was the level of the river being kept too high. Than city staff cited he university draining too much water through the back yards from the complex. Now residents are told there are blockages in the old piping but it can't be fixed without approval of the 2009 CIP.
For 5 years residents have been trying to get the city to fix the problem without success so WHAT would you do?

Anonymous said...

After reading the article, it appears that the problem was not the city's, but rather the contractor that built the house.

The retention pond is a separate issue that was discussed at the council meeting two weeks ago and is part of the solution.

Anonymous said...

Well, reading the news about the Supple's pulling out of the riverfront project, my question is WHEN WILL THE COUNCIL EVER LEARN!