Comments on Oshkosh Politics: What effect do retention ponds have?

It won't happen until we can get a council/city ma...

2008-07-10T18:05:00.000-05:00

It won't happen until we can get a council/city manager that will put their feet to the fire.

After watching the council meeting last night, my ...

2008-07-09T09:27:00.000-05:00

After watching the council meeting last night, my confidence in our city department managers is at an all time low. These people seem to feel they are not accountable to taxpayers. They seem to think that whatever they say must be taken as gospel without question. I sure hope our new manager isn't cut out of the same cloth Fitzpatrick is. Fitz blindly supports these people as if he feels he must

I prefer to listen to "schooled" engineers and com...

2008-06-30T08:00:00.000-05:00

I prefer to listen to "schooled"
engineers and common sense. We have outdated infrastruction in too many parts of this city. We have a DNR mandate to comply with. We do need to find a way to contain the water WEST OF HWY 41.
Set aside the fact these engineers are "public" employees perhaps you could think without "clouded" judgement.

There were various reasons why raw sewage backed u...

2008-06-29T18:36:00.000-05:00

There were various reasons why raw sewage backed up into basements Kent. In some cases it had nothing to do with sump pumps being hooked up improperly or illegally. Mr. Patek has outlined the many reasons.

Some of us paid very close attention to the presen...

2008-06-29T16:52:00.000-05:00

Some of us paid very close attention to the presentation. We choose to believe experts over you, KM. You say you want ALL the information. What more information do you want? If you are so expert on what will and will not work why didn't you gather your data and other information and present it before the workshop the other night? Other people discussed their thoughts. Why not you? You missed a

Anonymous 10:35 (and previously 12:03 and 7:43), y...

2008-06-29T14:50:00.000-05:00

Anonymous 10:35 (and previously 12:03 and 7:43), you can call me names if you wish. It appears that when I use the cities own data, you have no rebuttal. Look at the map. it will tell the tail. If you choose to stick you head in the sand, so be it. But that doesn't mean that the rest of us should.

Anonymous 10:37, I understand the need to build ponds. The locations are NOT mandated

A. We are required by the EPA to build these ponds...

2008-06-29T10:37:00.000-05:00

A. We are required by the EPA to build these ponds for pollution control.
B. The Westhaven ponds will serve 2 basins.
C. The pond on Murdock was full to the top (see the pictures provided by city staff. I have heard others say it overflowed.
D.I don't care how many ponds you have there will still be flooding when you receive 6 inches of rain in a few hours, especially after the 4

I don't think you would accept anything as proof. ...

2008-06-29T10:35:00.000-05:00

I don't think you would accept anything as proof. You are a naysayer who far too often disputes what people at city hall have said. And using 100 as a number because it's easy doesn't mean it makes sense. It was irresponsible and it's clear you haven't paid attention to the workshop or other discussions about this problem.

100 homes was just a guess. It was a nice round nu...

2008-06-28T23:32:00.000-05:00

100 homes was just a guess. It was a nice round number that made sense. Campbell Creek is east of the golf course and may have some benefit from the course but it is difficult to route a water source in a different direction. Especially the opposite direction than it is currently going.

Take a look at the city site regarding this project. Rather than looking at the optimistic point of

You still haven't explained how you come up with o...

2008-06-28T12:03:00.000-05:00

You still haven't explained how you come up with only 100 homes being helped. Your problem is you refuse to believe what all the people with more knowledge than you are saying about the problem. Also, I thought the people who gave the workshop presentation called them detention ponds instead of retention ponds. But whatever they're called, more than just 100 people will be served and that one

I fully remember the council action involving the ...

2008-06-28T09:50:00.000-05:00

I fully remember the council action involving the land behind the former Hudson's but like everything else its MONEY and the NIMBY theories that fuel bad decisions thus go on to cause more property damage. Tha pond could be already built and retaining water.

I believe it would be a benefit for many to buy Westhaven property and install water hazards. Sooner or later the city will need to

Nobody said that there shouldn't be a retention po...

2008-06-28T09:13:00.000-05:00

Nobody said that there shouldn't be a retention pond. I am not advocating that no money should be spent. We do need to do something to alleviate the flooding that is seen year after year. It shouldn't be the golf course though. Don't forget that the city was exploring putting such a pond behind the former Hudsons Grill until the owner of the land decided to market to developers instead. So, they

YES any help that can be given to OTHER flood vict...

2008-06-27T19:43:00.000-05:00

YES any help that can be given to OTHER flood victims is worth the money. If retention ponds could save some of the homes from flooding its worth the money.
IF the water filtered through retention ponds saves pollution from our lakes and streams its worth the money.
If you weren't so self-centered you would think of the benefits to others.
After all we pay taxes too and should be

I never said that I would benefit from the retenti...

2008-06-26T22:27:00.000-05:00

I never said that I would benefit from the retention pond. I said that I live IN the subdivision that would benefit. I have lived in this house for 6 years and still don't know if the sump pump actually works. I have never had any water. My neighbors on the other hand have not been so lucky and most had some type of loss from Sawyer Creek flooding the area.

I don't like the retention

I'm confused by your comments KM. In your one post...

2008-06-26T18:46:00.000-05:00

I'm confused by your comments KM. In your one post you say because you live in the area you'd benefit from the detention pond. In the next post you say you wouldn't. Which is it?